Adam returns to Roll On with Rich Roll for another wide-ranging conversation that covers everything from recovery milestones to the state of modern podcasting.

Together they explore Rich’s 90-day post-surgery reflections, the rise (and fall) of authentic podcasting, and how the “tortoise mind” might just be the ultimate life hack in a world obsessed with speed.

Along the way, they swap stories about Alaskan wilderness adventures, the revival of cinema, and what it means to build community rather than just an audience -plus a few unfiltered thoughts on why not caring about going viral might be the most radical move of all.

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